A Few Good Men (1992)

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Do hello and welcome back to the episodes 12 of Clear and Present

Dudes, the fast food slick ass Persian Bazaar movie podcasts

where tonight we are discussing 1990 twos A Few Good Men

directed by Rob Brenner, written by Aaron Sorkin, soaring, Tom

Cruise, Demi Moore, Kevin Pollack, Kevin Bacon, Kiefer

Sutherland, Jack Nicholson and some other people.

Yeah, awesome, right? Cool how we doing guys?

Living the dream, feeling really crappy.

I feel we're a real podcast now because we're doing an episode

when I'm announcing oh God, I'm so sick.

But we're still going to keep doing it because, you know,

because, you know, we're a serious podcast now.

Yeah, I feel like crap. And I've got like the death bug

that's going round. It's killing everybody.

I'm, I'm probably going to die in the next 7 hours, but you

know, it is what it is and I'm just standing on the wall and

making sure nobody hurts Demi Moore.

So. Yeah, I tell you what, I feel a

little bit like I'm in Guantanamo Bay.

The Guantanamo Bay can depicted in in A few Good men because it

is the 5th November. I live on the South side of

Glasgow and outside my window all I hear is explosion after

explosion after explosion all night long.

Cool. It's kind of, it's a bit weird

this we haven't got a we haven't got a bear in the dragon

anymore. It's gone.

It's done. I'm missing it.

I'm actually missing talking about like this.

Bizarre, terrible, horny, non credible techno thriller with

you guys definitely feel like feels like something's gone from

from my life or light has been extinguished out there.

What do you? What do you, what do you fight

another one? Used to be a favourite.

And just before we go into the actual movie, can you just say

the words Japanese sausage one last time?

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Brilliant. OK, cool.

In the movie, right? Yeah.

So as I mentioned, we are discussing the almost definitive

military courtroom drama given to us by Rob Brunette, written

by Aaron Sorkin, adapting his own play that he'd wrote based

on apparently a real Code Red incident.

Apparently Aaron Sorkin's sister was a Navy lawyer and she told

Mel the case. I don't know how professional

that is. And he wrote a award-winning

Broadway musical about it and how professional that is, which

is then turned into this movie. Tremendous success, $243 million

worldwide. Obviously one of the definitive

Jack Nicholson performances, even though he's only in it

relatively small amount of runtime.

A bit of a serious actor making performance for for Tom Cruise

alongside like born the 4th of July and that and also tell me

more getting some proper acting chops in having to work her way

around that Aaron Sorkin dialogue.

A man who I've described recently as the thinking man's

Joss Whedon, not because of his sexual propriety, which I don't

believe there is any, but just that that very fast-paced

dialogue that he's famous for. So.

Impropriety. What's your what's what's your

experience of the movie? Did you had you seen it before?

We did it this week. I saw years ago, like years ago,

I think this was like literally one of those like washed with

your dad in like the mid 90s kind of films up there with

things like, you know, no way Out, etcetera.

I forgot how good this film is. When this film goes hard, the

writing is incredible. I've rarely been so excited by a

film that's got so much non-stop banter in it.

I think we've all taken shots at films that have been a bit kind

of banter overload before, but unashamed to say that dialogue

in this film sparkles at some points and it's just, it's just

so witty. It's so sharp.

It's like welcome back banter. All is forgiven for now.

Excellent. Yeah, we'll definitely get into

some of the banter scenes as we go through and especially as we

start to talk about quotes in the movie, because this whole

movie is eminently quotable. I say that a lot.

But this is as a guy who's going through a bit of a West Wing

marathon at the minute because, you know, hope and everything.

Yeah. Like, yeah, it's just, it's,

yeah, very much soaked in that world of of fast-paced, witty

dialogue where everyone is incredibly, sparklingly witty

and nobody says a Duff line. Yeah.

Fantastic. Sonia, have you seen the movie

before? Yes, I think that's actually the

fair time I've watched it. I am ruining Ruin though,

because I've come to, well, I've done law school and the Navy's.

I just enjoy it though. It's so dramatic.

It's so over the top. Well, we're going to have to

come back to you for some some legal opinions as we go through.

I'm assuming that you obviously you did law school.

I'm not sure you've been like a trial lawyer, but.

No. And I'm sure the German legal

system is probably a little bit different from the situation of

Tiny, but we. We don't even have we don't even

have have military courts really like we we do not their their

civilian. So we, we don't get like people

in uniform yelling at each other.

They want the truth. Unfortunately, I, I, I feel like

I would enjoy doing that to, to a good handful of people at the

moment. Well, regretfully.

Do you still have like, do you still have like a trial by

combat when when you're assigned champions will go and chin each

other in the town square? It is.

It is common for for your CEO's to just be randomly shipped off

to Nuremberg. I think, I think Rory was going

for reference to the life and death of Colonel Blimp.

Maybe that? Yeah, but I was just calling for

life and ethnic little blimp reference, but of the old final

make home bus. Honestly, I wish we had.

I would have. I was tempted to challenge my

last CEO to a duel. Repeat.

So fucking. I would be on board with that,

but unfortunately I think it would mostly count count as

assault and damage to government property.

So we've got a whole e-mail inbox if you want to egg Sanya

on to challenge various members of his chain of command.

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grade militarised autism. So let's talk about the movie

then. A Few Good Men 1992 is the story

of a Navy lawyer, Lieutenant Daniel Caffey, played by Tom

Cruise, who's known for quick plea bargains and he's getting

assigned to defend 2US Marines bans corporal on a private who

have been accused of murdering A fellow Marine at Guantanamo Bay,

leaving as most of the story. Lieutenant Commander Joanne

Galloway, played by Demi Moore, and Lieutenant Sam Weinberg,

played by Kevin Pollack, joined Cathy to uncover whether a

clandestine disciplinary order called a good Red ordered from

the top brass has taken place and is responsible for the

death. What ensues is a courtroom

showdown with Base Commander Colonel Nathan Jessup, played by

Jack Dickerson, exposing a clash between following orders and

following conscience. Shall we watch the trailer?

Yeah, let's watch this trailer. You pretty pretty good trailer.

I'm going to I'm going to say it wasn't as good as the trailer As

for for Unstoppable, but. Was unreal.

I'm I'm actually in, it's an interesting way just how how

much of the kind of climactic moments of the film, this trail

I just kind of gave away. It's almost like, I mean, this

is back in a time where I suppose you could give the the

film watching public a bit of credit and go if you this guy's,

I mean, the movie starts with Tom Cruise desperate to avoid a

courtroom. We know he's going to wind up in

a courtroom like and you have to and you have to sell the movie

Jack Dixon and most of his scenes take place in the

courtroom so that. Is true.

I mean otherwise you're going to have like what scenes of Jack

Nicholson in his BDU is just talking trash in his office?

Or scenes of Jack Nicholson smoking a cigar and getting

waited on next to his cushy villa on the base.

I was, yeah. Right.

Yeah, I'm. Looking.

For those five guys 1300 feet away from those 4000 dudes, it

is. It is a villa with his

manservant. Yeah, yeah, Big oh big up shader

fucking staying in a hotel in Cyprus.

Energy, yeah. It's big fucking Roman centurion

energy. It's like energy.

It's like it's just like it's a tail as well as time.

Like again, 3000 years ago, this thing probably happened with

like some like legionaries killing some of that dude.

So Oh my God, who, who, who, who, who ordered the deservation

of this one particular fucking. They go around and this is like

like high rank and legionary God, like listen, son,

surrounded by slaves and stuff and like, listen, these these

these Britons that are rub 50 leagues away from me with that

pointed sticks. I'm riffing.

Well, Sonia does what I know he's doing, by the way, and we

stand on this wall. Legionaries can't handle the

truth. You.

Need me on Hadrian's Wall? You need me on Hadrian.

'S. Wall.

It's like. You need me on the lemurs.

Hey, we'd better put some camouflage jackets over you.

Why? Oh well, you know the, the the

ancient Britons will say your fucking lower cast segment Tata

and they'll think you're somewhat to throw Spears at.

OK, get in, get in, get in the 2000 year old Humvee and we'll

and we'll bool along. I'd say I kind of vibes off him.

All the while he's saying I'm the most badass ally tip of the

spear bloke. It's like you've got a fucking

manservant. You're in the fucking, you're in

the Caribbean. You know he.

Wishes he was Colonel. Kurtz He wishes.

He wishes he'd gone downriver and gone insane.

You know, like it's like this. This film actually shines a

light on just how kind of Kush being posted like a nice place

is, I think, because people seemingly will do anything to to

like underline how badass and tough it actually is.

Like, Oh my God, I'm up against these Cubans and the point and

guns at us all the time. And there's all these never been

fucking documented instances of Cubans threw up killing

Americans and got to keep those guns up guys.

And, and it's like, well, it's, I mean, it's you make yourself

look like it's really necessary that you're there and you're

doing a bad hard job because the alternative is you got sent to

Greenland or something like that.

So it's like. There's there's always like the

Super over eggs kind of security brief you'll get when you arrive

in theatre. And then it's like right now

you've been through this, the security brief, which has like

video footage of people lobbing fire bombs at each other and a

blow whipping out a shotgun on the on the on the motorway and

stuff. That's a Jay with the I watched

once on arrival at the Bahrain and it's like right, cool.

When you want to go after this, you want to go to Scan Alley,

then go to the pictures. Scan Alley, I love it.

Yeah, gosh, brilliant. Yeah, it's this one St in in

Bahrain right next to the American base, which is just

like full of like five guys and like and like 3 guys, which is a

different local knock off. That's incredible.

Yeah. That's austerity.

That's austerity in action. Yeah, so they shouldn't.

Have done for for something like 5 wives or something that would

have been OK. Wow.

No, I'm not doing the cultural sensitivity brief today.

Thank you. Brilliant.

This movie, right? It starts with some very funky

arms drill by the US Marines. Yeah.

So what do you guys think of? Think of that with the.

I like that with the music and everything.

Very, very fancy. It was done by I noticed

creditors actually took a picture on the screen.

I noticed that in the credits, this this incredibly Ally arms

drill, which was so frigging cool, was performed by this name

was an absolute mouthful. The association of former fish

drill team members of cadets at Texas A&M University.

Brilliant. Giggum go Aggies.

Nice. Because we see that a little bit

and then the next thing we see is the crime in question, which

is the cool red being done on private first class moving in

Santiago by his two oppos. It looks really brutal.

They cut before it gets probably bad, but you know, they seem

like duct take his mouth shut and shove the rag down his

throat and all that kind of stuff.

Pretty grim. And then it comes back to the

the drill team. And then we first clap eyes on

Demi Moore as Lieutenant Commander Joanne Galloway, the

Jag Corps, as she just kind of walks right through where

they've been marching. Yeah, which is a little bit in,

in. Where did she come from?

She emerged from the tree line and was walking across the

fields. That's how you summon that.

That's that's how you summon a. Unique drill circle to summon

that. Marching bands.

And then next for the tree line, a bit like M Night Sherman's the

village in reverse, but we want to get her out of the tree line.

That's since what she's she's the the what the senior counsel

to the Bureau of Internal Affairs or something cool.

She's muttering to herself about how she wants to get a

particular case. She's she's on her way to a

meeting with a with A4 ring captain and she's kind of saying

she's like trying to rephrase a sentence to herself.

And she's also really nervous. She's like I, I believe it is I

who should be assigned to this. I I think that given the

seriousness, it, it ought to be me that is the one that is

assigned or is gets the assignment to.

And she like, can't find a sentence to say.

Yeah. And then she's yeah.

But that's what's her little journey.

And then we cut to our boy, the son and Daniel Cathy, Tom

Cruise. And he's playing softball.

And it's it's Tom Cruise doing a sport.

What do you what do you think of Tom Cruise doing a sport right

away? Against some, against some deja

vu, because we talked about this the last episode as well.

I, I don't, I don't fully believe was a sportsman.

I don't think any of us truly, truly believe this man as a

sportsman. There's an element of not quite

full kit wanker, but he's certainly got like top half up

kit wanker energy because he's he's got he's got a little got a

little baseball cap on Boston Red Sox.

Something that I noticed was whole scene was just how at

times he really reminded me of Schmidt from New Girl.

Yeah. Dialogue in that little

sequence, something about like the way he kind of carries

himself as well. There are moments in this film

when he has this like level of schmittiness, this like kind of

this points when when when the role could have been played by

Max Greenfield for at least some of the film.

Man. Can you imagine actually?

Great casting. What if?

Imagine if that movie was made like 20 years later.

Pick New Girl era even now actually.

Pick New Girl era. Yes, we could even have Zoe

Deschanel in Can, Can you? Imagine.

No. That's rude.

No, no. Just try the whole thing.

Oh. No, but no bug screw for that

would be awesome man. Yeah, man.

Then we come back to Tim Moore and she's in her meeting with A4

Ring Captain Jack Guy and he's they've taken delivery of the

case notes for the the case, which is Lance Corporal Dawson

and Private First Class Downey, U.S.

Marines who have been charged with the murder of Private First

Class William Santiago. They've brought in Danny Moore

into the office because she's a really good investigator and

she's called the case and she's really passionate about trying

to sort out these these code red things.

But everyone's been very ginger about it because they're all

scared of the absolute shitstorm it's going to bring up Because

the commanding officer of the base down there is tipped to

become the new, you know, director of operations for the

National Security Advisor. So it's a political minefield.

Then she finds out it's going to although dunk dunk Cathy, who we

just saw with his careful attitude in his desire to get a

plea bargain and his absolute allergic reaction to attending a

courtroom. Dan Caffey generally thinks he's

the shit and he's been picked for this case because he's so

good and doesn't yet realise that he's actually just being

picked for this case because he's proper Rouge and and and

would not dare take it to trial. Yeah.

Cool. What do you think of what do you

think of our cast so far? Sonya pop in first.

Wading into a really seeming hot water here.

Just saying that I think I am generally not all that much of A

Tom Cruise fan, but I think you really fixed this one.

Yeah, that's pretty common for you these days, isn't it?

Let's talk about Tom Cruise, show about it.

Let's talk about Tom Cruise for a minute, OK?

Yeah, let's do this. So.

He is actually really good on this film.

Yeah. About 1/4 way through the film,

I thought this is a this is a Tom Cruise all timer as far as

performances go alike like the subtleties of even things like

his facial expressions, his reactions, especially,

especially in the scene when spoilers, because it's a spoiler

cast when he when he just rage baits Jack Nicholson into

admitting that he you know, or add the code red, the look on

his face together. A couple of you got away with

that kind of thing. The reactions, the facial

expressions, it's it's really good.

I hate that performance of his. In my opinion, it's one of his

best. Probably controversial, but it

is what it is. Yeah.

Should we, should we address the Tom Cruise of it all?

So I totally agree with you, Roy.

I think, I think he's really, really good in this role.

Yeah. I, I will say now, opinions

obviously vary about the guy. A lot of speculation about his

personal life and his contract on set sometimes as well.

We all remember during COVID when he had that missive

blowout, do I think it was the first dead reckoning?

They were filming at the time and he and he had that whole big

crash out and it was recorded because people weren't masking

up properly on set and stuff and he was kicking off about it.

Remember that. This.

No, I think I missed that crash out actually.

We could always drop a clip of it in.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll find a cut for it and put

it in. We are the gold standard.

You're back here in Hollywood making movies right now because

of us, because they believe in us and what we're getting.

I'm on the phone with every studio at night, insurance

companies, producers, and they're looking at us and using

us to make their movies. We are creating thousands of

jobs. I don't ever want to see it

again, ever. Obviously. 2005 The the hopping

on the sofa, yeah. Yeah.

The Katie Holmes stuff, obviously his kind of early

foray into into Scientology, which I think it was a Mimi

Rogers thing. I have to double check this.

I don't want to get in trouble, but I think Mimi Rogers is what

got got him into it. And then he then he got out of

it with Nicole Kidman, I think. And then he got kind of dragged

back into it even deeper, like the Godfather part three kind of

thing. And then, yeah.

And then and then since then he's kind of like kind of had a

weird passo in his career. At this point, though, he's

doing some really good stuff. So at this point, it's great.

Tom Cruise having done like the kind of early like cocktail Days

of Thunder kind of rules where, yeah, he's got like good people

around him in supporting roles, people like like Robert Duvalls

and and and Days of Thunder has a relatively minor role, but

he's a like good like mental character.

Top Gun. He's got Tom Skerritt there

seasoned all director kind of helping along in a mentoring

role. Now we're getting to the point

in his career, I think, where he's starting to do like 2 to 2

with like these giants and he's got to act as much as they could

act. He's kind of been a bit like,

I'm not talking, obviously what he does is difficult, but he was

kind of a pretty face in like in like Top Gun for a lot of it has

a couple of emotional scenes, but he's he's mainly a pretty

face right at this point in his career now he's doing he's done

stuff like I think born the 4th of July, he's like 24.

I think he's done this the next year.

He's got the firm with Gene Hackman.

Yeah. So he's coming against.

He's like Titans. And this is a really good

example of that with with Jack Nicholson, like incredible

performance, incredible performance of Jack Nilson.

And yet and yet, like Tom is like there with him, like

holding his own, I think. Totally.

The the scene when he's at the base at the, I'm going to keep

calling it the villa because it looks like a villa.

You know what he's having is when, when, when he's been

invited to be flexed at. Colonel Nathan R Jessup.

Colonel Nathan, Nathan R Jessup. Yeah.

And this one, Jack Nicholson basically invites him was flex

off and. And you know that he's like kind

of that flex on him because he's already halfway through a badass

dip when he arrives, found a piece of white cloth and he's

surrounded to ACNN news team. And I was like, oh, there you

are. The guy I've been trying to

humiliate. And yeah, in terms of acting

like, yeah, he's he. He matches them blow for blow.

It's really good chop for chop. It's excellent.

Nobody seems out of out of the league in that whole scene.

Yeah, yeah. This movie's quite so people who

I think who haven't had necessarily the the credit for

being great actors prize this movie.

I think really to step up and give the regame.

I think there's there's a couple of people I think are maybe

slightly wicked on this and I think their careers have borne

out in that in that way, unfortunately do still do good

work in this movie. And I do believe them.

But I think they do stick out a little bit.

I think, I think, I think our two defendants, I think Wolfgang

Butterson as, as Harold Dawson is maybe outmatched a little

bit, has a bit of a got a got a weird energy from him.

Apart from the bit where he doesn't salute and put his hands

in his pockets. That's brilliant.

He does that, He sells that. He says that so well.

That was absolutely class that was meant.

Yeah, he's really good. At that, yeah, that that was,

that was a nod to the real defence heads and the whole

marines can't put their hands in the pockets kind of thing that's

constantly beamed upon, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really good.

James Marshall is Private Loudon Downey, who people may know more

for being James. He's called James Marshall in

real life, James Hurley in Twin Peaks.

I think he's somewhat out of his depth as an actor.

Unfortunately, in this movie it helps his character is like very

simple. Yeah.

I mean, I was going to say thick as men's for very simple.

Yeah. He's he, he, he is not a smart

man. There's.

A There's a there's definitely a there's definitely a deleted

scene where he's got like a packet of crayons for a snack.

In he's he's he's skating close to like simple Jack.

Everybody else, though, stepped up.

I think so. Kevin Bacon, Jack Ross really

good performance believable unbelievable as this this Marine

will heart goals still fiercely. I get a very good Kiefer

Sutherland as as as Kendrick, second left second Lieutenant

Jonathan Kendrick, by the way, so pretty, pretty junior

officer. Absolute absolute psychopath.

Corn fed, corn fed psychopath like.

Unsettling performance. Unsettling performance.

Genuinely terrifying. Sutherland there and safe.

The Sutherland DNA is strong in that performance.

Yeah, if if, like you get the vibe from him that if he wasn't

an officer in the US Marine Corps, he would be making a use

of himself in someone's Police Department.

Yeah, yeah. Really bad.

Really bad. He'd be very much a turn off the

body Cam and then do horrendous things kind of guy.

Yeah, definitely, Definitely. Yeah.

You see him take a set against Dan Caffey when Jess spells a

story out about how his father, like, I thought his name Lionel

Cafe, I think his name is his dad is.

Yeah. His dad was a a litigator who

went down to Alabama and then and then won like a serious

civil action about allowing like, integration in schools.

Yeah, that was it. And then that.

And that's what sets keep his own off against him.

He's like, oh, oh, you come down to my Alabama.

They want to mix my schools. Well, I'm a horrible racist who

loves the Bible. Coming to my house in to create

my schools or be a racist. It's it's it's pretty much says

the quiet part out loud. And he is just a horrible, nasty

little Christian nationalist kind of guy.

He's the kind of guy who would hopefully get flags like

extremism in in today's woke military.

Hopefully. Probably not.

See JT Walsh as well. Brilliant.

JT Walsh was Lieutenant Colonel Markinson.

Andrew Markinson. Yeah, Andrew Markinson.

So he's he's the one that was a contemporary of Jessup's and

they get outpaced. Is now serving as EXO at the at

Gitmo. He's brilliant as well.

I think he has a very, he's got a very small role.

Yeah. But holds it with like a real

quiet dignity. He does.

And you can see like, right when people talk about, we use words

like honour and code when you talk about the actual honour and

the service values of, of what the US Marine Corps is probably

meant to exemplify when it's not being perverted by the likes of

Jessup, like like JC Walsh's character.

It's like what you expect it to be like these professional,

competent, you know, men who and women, but who who you know,

have these these set of values and and live by them.

And the fact that he had like kills himself out of out of

because he's dishonoured himself by participating in the cover

up. Yeah speaks well and we've got

Sheila Gooding junior Yeah, as a corporal call Hamaker.

He's only in like 1 scene and it's just like for a split

second you're like, you probably should have been, you probably

should have been Dawson if we're being real, like in terms of

quality of actor, but but then the. 2nd, you can guarantee

there would have been a discussion, a discussion at the

like the kind of producer level of are we going to cast a man

called Cuba to act in a major role in a film that's partially

set in Cuba? And there would have been a like

a literal discussion of is, is this going to make our film look

silly? Well, they cast America Ferrera

and Barbie, and a lot of that takes place in America.

But these are things we know now in the enlightened 21st century

man the main characters. Navy guy whose last name is

Coffee. Oh my God, yeah, it's the whole.

Thing is a cliche. That's right, of course he's

homeboy, so swagger around with a German word for coffee is his

handle. So yeah.

Very good. Probably the weirdest 1 is

Christopher Guest. Is Doctor Stone the the Doctor

in charge in Gitmo? Yeah.

From Spinal Tap and and went for government and everything.

Obviously, obviously Rob Renner was like, have I got a row for

you? Is it is it funny?

I don't know. Is someone drowning in the blood

in their own lungs funny? No, like it.

Yeah. Awesome.

Yeah. That we took it was too little

break there to talk about all the cast in great detail.

We can skip that category now. Cool.

Right. Yeah.

OK, so let's, let's go ahead a little bit.

So there's a little bit of an R about who's going to take the

case and what they're going to do.

They go to Cuba to to do a little bit of investigating.

And we see that Cafe, despite his best intents, he, he doesn't

really, he doesn't want to take the case.

He, he doesn't want to. He just wants to brush it away

like everybody else does. He's intimidated by Jessup and

he's not got the instincts to be a good investigator yet.

And you see that when they go and like do a tour of his, his,

his, like, I want to say Mystic, his, his cabin, I guess his

cabin. And they're looking like

obviously the crime scene, they're looking at the crime

scene, looking through stuff. We see some important stuff that

comes back later in the movie, but you got a lot of you got a

lot of verbal back and forth between Kathy and and Galloway

Galloway saying like, are you actually going to do any

investigating while we're here? You're just going to take the

guided tour. Big big fan of that big fan.

The the scene I want to talk about, which we've talked about,

like you've you've mentioned like a handful of times already,

is the villa right? The the opposite, the club under

their special alawning and the officers mess.

That that that dinner where he's like holding court like a

fucking like a fucking tutor king.

Basically, like everyone, everyone comes to the Nathan

Jessup lovin while I talk bullshit and everyone does a

career laugh around me. I fucking hate that he's awful

and he's he's horrible and he and he says that disgusting

thing when he's trying to undermine Galloway.

So halfway through. So Galloway keeps trying to push

for from her invasion. Kathy is like desperately trying

to de escalate it because he doesn't want to piss anybody

off. So several times he's like, no,

we're not, we're going to go. She's just one of, it's

charming, just one of her quirks.

She asks questions that she doesn't want the answer to.

Let's go, let's go, let's go. And then and then Jessup does

that whole like, I just realised she outranks you.

Oh, you're lucky there, kid. And it's been a horrible thing

about how great it must be. Yeah, that whole thing I was, I

was talking with with my wife earlier on, not about this scene

specifically, but we're talking about the concept nowadays about

what movies can it wouldn't get made today and what things would

be different. And if they made this movie, I

think this year, this scene probably wouldn't be in it

necessarily. And it's not because it's a bad

scene. I think it's a really good

scene. I think it's because depending

on who made the movie, I guess people aren't necessarily as

comfortable about talking about this kind of stuff anymore.

Yeah. There's a big push online of

people who are like, overly online to online, you might say,

who don't want to experience art or the world in any kind of way

that makes them feel uncomfortable.

Yeah. I'm not going to say because of

woke, right? That's not what I'm getting at.

That's that's not what I'm that's not what I'm getting at

right. But but there is, there is a

certain amount of like of of like thickening skin that may be

required by some people out there who I get, I'm going to

get on my soapbox a little bit here.

I get really, I get really like, I get yeah, because I get really

annoyed right about people. You see, you see on a lot of

like YouTube content and over short form content on on on the

Internet. Well, people don't use the word

like killed anymore or committed suicide or anything like that

because they're afraid of offending somebody.

These concepts exist. These things happen.

The world doesn't have to be comfortable for you.

Like like the world is out there.

Terrible things happen everyday. If you want to lock yourself in

a bubble in your own house, then, you know, go with God.

That's that's on you. But but the rest of the world

doesn't need to moderate its language around you, like, like

to walk on egg shells because because it might make your

single individual experience a bit different.

Like, like the world wasn't curated for you as one, you

know, as one person. You know what I mean?

Just really pisses me off that there you see that kind of

stuff. It's like, fuck me, man.

Like people get killed, right? OK.

And like, no, no, no, no, no. They get analysed now we can't.

No, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So yeah, I saw a video the other day about, I swear to God, I was

watching a video on YouTube and it was about, it was about

Wolfenstein the New Colossus, the 2019 video game where you

plays BJ Baskowitz killing the fuck out of a shit tonne of

Nazis, right? Yeah.

And the guy on the video, I swear to God, does not say the

word Nazi once and kept saying tyrants.

And I'm like, good. Grief thought that is crazy,

man. Why do you even want to fucking

talk about it? You know, I see what I mean.

I mean our our, our ancestors. Not specifically your Sonya

Didn't, didn't, didn't, didn't spend years battling against

Moustache Man until he unlived himself in the Moustache Man

bunker for nothing. You know, No, it's, it's, it's

wild. I've actually heard this like,

like like I've heard of an actual quote, quote history

content on YouTube that uses the phrase moustache man instead of

Hitler. And it's like, yes, he isn't

fucking Lord Voldemort. He's not coming back.

If you mentioned his name, he's not fucking, he's not fucking

Beetlejuice. He's not he's he's he's, he's

not the candy man, he's not the bye bye man.

Jesus, imagine that. I was like, Oh my God, guys,

I've thought about Hitler and he's back.

Isn't it? Yeah.

Is he but? God damn.

Yeah. So that that that whole

sequence, anyway, I think it's a really good scene in the movie

because it shows you what a a vulgar, crass, horrible, yeah.

Despicable old dirty man. Yeah.

That that Jessop is behind the veneer of him being a highly

decorated officer. Like, and the veneer's pretty

thin as well, isn't he? Pretty thin, I mean.

He's got, he's got no respect for anybody.

No, not at all. And, and it's a significant

amount of it is bluster and it's it's he's honestly, he acts like

he's in a pivotal role to defend society against the hordes of

Barbarians. And he's like a few hours boat

away from Florida. He's like, yeah, he's like a 19

miles away from the like fucking Miami.

Yeah, like, like it's like you shit little man, for for for

some reason you're in this position when you can just say

shit that would and should be absolutely career ending if that

was ACNN camera team and not a cinema camera team, you know

what I mean? And it's like, this is crazy,

man. He's he's, he's a horrible

little bollocks, basically. He's horrible about he's.

A horrible little bollocks. You know, like he's a fucking

nasty little testicle of a man. Yeah.

And all it does is through his way around.

There's the there's the scene prior to that where they're

talking about when they're in his office and they're talking

about whether to transfer Santiago away.

And he gives it the whole big spew of like, I think we have a

responsibility to train him and blah, blah, blah.

Well, that's not what you mean. Yeah.

You don't really think of a responsibility to train him

because you've already made your mind up that this guy is

unsalvageable as a Marine because he doesn't fit your

particular like in what you think a good Marine is.

And plus, I wanted them, didn't they?

Because he was like, it was the whole thing when he was going to

rat, rat them out to the NIS. That's right, yeah.

Because they're being like an unauthorised shot fired in the,

in the Cuban territory. And he's like, I'm, I'll tell of

you, I'll get you done. Surely the Cubans themselves

would be like, hi, one of your guys just fucking shot at us.

Sort it out, you know, throw it out, you slags.

Like it would be difficult to kind of cover this up if there

was an actual literal fucking. Gunshot fired towards what they

say is like the mirrors, isn't it?

Say it's like like like the like equivalent opposite number card

posts. So it's like you know, and it

isn't like open dagger to discharge desktop.

Sorry boss. It's he was specifically

claiming that he thought he was getting aimed at before.

He was getting into and he found an aim shot in retaliation.

Yeah, right. I mean, we don't we don't get

into this in the movie. And the one thing I will say

before we we get it like right, the civvy audience listening to

it will be we won't be able to make a reminder.

I think about what we think about.

It's it's implied that it's a big no, no.

Obviously to automatically firing a shot into Cuba is

pretty, pretty fucking bad. What we don't know though, is

actually the the are we enforce for them at the time.

And I haven't really thought to look it up, to be honest.

The general rule of thumb is that the American IOE is a lot

more liberal than ours. And especially yours, Sonia, I

think, I think, I think yours and ours are pretty restrictive.

I think NATO as a as a as a body is extremely restrictive.

Yeah. All right.

So going on in the background, I suppose with all this is Dawson

and Downey don't trust a Cathy at all.

Cathy, really for the first hour of the movie, Kathy's not

popular with anybody. He's he's a bit full of himself,

a bit slick. And yeah, he's also not sure if

he wants to take the case and there's an inciting incident

that makes him take the case. Basically, the arraignment is

set up to happen and you and the night before the arraignment is

the big decision point about how Kathy's going to plead on behalf

of his defendants, which is a bit weird by the way, one that

the defendants don't enter the room plea.

I don't know how accurate that is for the American military

courts. That's not how we do things

here. But but it's mad that he's

waiting till the night before the defendants have a right to

determine what their plea is. Surely very strange that they've

just let their hands be like their fates be in the hands of

this one guy who they don't even like.

I mean, there is, there is, there is.

The separate bit that I think is it Downey has actually taken

Galloway on as council just so that she can be part of the team

essentially. Yeah, because.

Because. Because his Aunt Ginny wanted an

Aunt Ginny. Yeah.

Yeah, and then, but then she says, like, I'm not going to

rock the boat. You can remain as lead council,

which is why you've got a Senate commander with much more

experience working for the nine months in Lieutenant.

Very odd. Anyway, the 56 minute point of

the movie, right? Galloway is trying to convince

Kathy to enter a not guilty plea so these guys get their day in

court and can actually argue a case even though they think

they're going to get beaten. And she does this by going,

Kathy, you're the only one who could do this.

You know how to win. And we need a lawyer who knows

how to win even though he's never been in a courtroom.

And for the previous 56 minutes, all she's been doing is talking

smack about him. OK, Then 40 seconds later, when

Kathy's humming and horror about it, he goes, she goes, you know

what? You don't know a thing about the

law. You're you're an ambulance

chaser. You're a used car salesman with

a rank. It's like, make your mind up.

Demi Moore. Do you like it?

But do you think he's the best lawyer who can only win this

case? So do you think he's an idiot

who doesn't know anything about the law?

Like, I understand that she might even like to manipulate

him to try test his ego a bit. But.

But yeah, it kind of works though, so.

So she obviously makes him feel a bit like shit after insulting

him like that. He goes away, has his long dark

tea. Time of the soul.

I think you see a bits of the montage at the start of the

trailer. And then the next day, they go

to the arraignment, enter the plea, he enters that they're not

guilty. Like, sort of like begins in

earnest, doesn't it? And it begins when the, when the

prosecution calls all of the platoon.

Yeah, individually, yeah, yeah. So you got that, you got that.

So you get that change. You get so you get the change in

in. This is good actually.

So this is I think this is like the dividing line between the

first half of the movie, The second-half, first half is all

the set up and you get all the character beats and the

character build up. And then once that arraignment

happens, you get the switch. Kathy is like, right, we're

going to work from my place every night from 7:00.

One of my favourite lines in the film, something that I've

wrestled with a little bit today.

The only thing I have to eat is you who and Cocoa Puffs.

If you want anything else, bring it with you and say right.

Going to say it now, man, I'm a dirtbag.

I'm I'm I'm, I'm the kind of human being who would literally

say it as someone all right now is generic cereal and generic

flavoured milk is what I assume you who is right and say nobody

who is in a life situation when all they have is you who and

Coco Puffs is is a lawyer at all.

None of these people exist. These people don't exist.

This is stealing, stealing scumbag valour, right.

Like I, I, I mean, it's Oh yes, it's funny.

He's he's he's quirky, but it's like, no, when, when, when

you're in that kind of position, you're fucking giving up.

You know what my giving up asked?

Fucking dirtbag world. I'm the kind of horrible flesh

golem that could exist on cereal flavoured milk if I had to.

I don't have a high flying job that requires a huge gravement

like you. Like being a lawyer, if you were

sick existing on literally nothing but sugar and like and

like chemically processed milk that's probably got lead in it,

you'd see him take like 2 swings with his little bat and just

fall over in in exhaustion. I am not having this slander

against stay at home sons like me who worked years to to to

suffer the slings narrows of existing on food that's just

consumed for novelty. No, no garbage film.

Oh man. Fuck off with your Yukos, you

lying liar you. Lying liar.

Oh, I was worried I didn't get a chance to use the Pants on Fire

defence. Oh man.

Hey, let's take a moment to talk about our friends.

Simon Weinberg, played by by Kevin Pollak, because he he gets

a difficult job in this movie as being kind of the the third

wheel, occasional quick giver kind of guy.

But he gets but he gets one really good scene, which is that

he has a moral compulsion against against daughter and

Tony. He doesn't, obviously, he's a

Navy lawyer. He doesn't agree with the Code

Red thing. He's not a fan of hazing

rituals, doesn't like bullying in any of its forms.

You know, I agree. And he is not keen to defend

these guys and doesn't understand why they're doing it.

And he has an opportunity to get out the case.

He's put on the spot as to why he did it.

And he's like, because they picked a little guy, you know,

they took the guy what, because he couldn't run as fast,

couldn't run as long and they took this guy and they beat him

up for it kind of thing. But he he stays anyway.

But I just wanted to, I just wanted to highlight little Kevin

Pollack there because he's brilliant and fact for the movie

that was going to be cast by guess who Jason Alexander was

initially cast for that role could have been George Costanza,

but he had to pull out because of Seinfeld.

Jesus, there is, you know, a kind of there's kind of a little

bit of energy about him, though, when he's like don't have to do

a thing, you know, don't have to do anything.

So if you go there, don't do anything kind of thing that's

that's actually a little bit of Costanza in that that's that's

scary prescient. Oh my God, I am really sorry.

Now I'm just absolutely just recasting all of the pivotal

characters with the same forecast.

So of course you've got Jerry Seinfeld himself playing Kathy.

You've got. Elaine.

Elaine, get out. And of course, the role, the

role, the role of. Justin Chester is Michael

Richards. No, no, I think it's I think

it's Newman. I think it's, I think it's weird

nightmare. I think it's win night.

Just sitting there in his in his greens, with his big cigar, just

with his with his storm and Norman physique, just telling

tales about Desert Storm to Jerry Seinfeld, who for some

reason is the trying to make him believable.

The trying to pass to make Jerry fucking Seinfeld believable as

anything other than a comedian. Oh my God.

And then cream Alex, just like I said.

Oh cool rat. It's a great right?

I think it is Kevin Bacon's character.

Yes. I mean, I'm going to fucking put

him somewhere. It's either that or he's one of

the two killers. Well, I was just.

I said that was one of the two killers, which would be even

harder to process. So yeah, he's yeah, he's the

Kevin Bacon guy. Oh my God.

Or is or is the is is is the second Lieutenant is the Kiefer

Sutherland. Geez.

Oh, God. Yeah, man, horrendous that this.

Is now a vote racist? Vote racist?

Oh. My God, just probably unsubtle

about it. This is just straight up fan

fiction at this point man. This is like.

Where's J Peterman? Oh my God.

Is that Markinson? Maybe J Peterman?

Oh yeah. Just isn't the GTA wash rule.

I knew your son. Well, vaguely I I heard his

name, but I falsifies that transcript.

I knew what I had to do with Elaine you.

Can always be Burma to me. I hope you're watching the court

case because I'm only watching the Passion, Right.

Sorry. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Case has started there.

The government is claiming that Kendrick specifically given an

order to everybody not to touch Santiago at the same time

Santiago had been granted a transfer from the base.

It was due to leave on that transport at 6:00 in the

morning, which is when they say the first flight out of Cuba was

was taking place. So they've they've already lied

by saying that that is the first flight when actually it was

nearly a flight. There's a second lie in that

that flight they said he's going on to didn't exist.

They lie about the order not to touch him being given.

I think maybe, yeah, potentially.

No, that one's true because everyone, everyone saw it.

What they then lie about is that Kendrick then give a separate

order to Lance Corporal Dawson, not down as we lay here, Lance

forward with Dawson alone to do the code red on on Ballina

Santiago. So what we see at the beginning

of the case is testimony that the order not to touch Santiago,

it's taken place, which isn't disputed.

And then the next thing we get is the expert testimony of

Christopher Guest from Smile tap as the doctor about the medical

condition. And we find out and it all gets

stricken from the record. Basically, there's a there's a

lot of like little wins that they have and lots of losses

they have. They have a bit of a draw over

the, over the, the testimony of everyone saying that the order

had taken place and they kind of call it for the day and we come

in the next day. The, the medical stuff is very

much a win for the prosecution and a big defeat for the, the

defence. So what happens is they, they

kind of badger the witness a little bit.

They they get the one thing that they needed quite early on,

which was could the lactic acidosis which caused the the

blood to pull in his lungs have taken place without a chemical

poison inducing it, which is what is claimed by the

prosecution, could have taken place without the poison if they

had an underlying medical condition.

And does the underlying medical condition it would have taken

place match the symptoms that Santiago had been presenting

with? They got that bit done quite

early and they should have just left it there.

But they keep badgering about like trying to get the doctor

himself to say that he has given a lower standard of care to

Santiago. I had personally fucked up and

because they pushed a little bit too far, they eventually got the

whole thing stricken from the record, which is a big, big loss

for the defence. And that's a bit of a movement

for them to kind of re evaluate. Yeah.

So the next bit that happens in the case is they get Kendrick on

the stand. Yeah.

Kendrick is a safeguard lunatic and they get something pretty

important out of it, which was that a previous could read had

taken place. Although they don't get they

don't get into the record that it's formally known as Code Red,

even though even though they describe it is very much like 1.

I think it gets objected against and they and they and they get

sustained. There's a shit to no objections

in this movie, by the way. I don't think real court, real

trials have this many objections.

I mean, I just want to hop in here and say Sonia is the one of

us with the most legal training, I guess maybe the only one of us

with. I mean, you've probably had some

trainer obviously make, but Sandy did go to law school.

Not legal training. Yeah, but yeah, you've, you've,

you've sat on. So basically our, our, our court

experience so far as I've been sued successfully.

I was, I was out of suit. I'm a divorce court warrior.

Meg, obviously you've you've been involved in a court

martial. But that's yeah, that's that's

that's a legal one. And then the non legal version

of it is some rehearings which have, yeah, I've been in charge

of several times. I mean as, as, as, as a baby

journalist and the student journalist.

I was in court a few times in the mags and in the Crown Court

in, in Newcastle, which was really funny.

Mainly actions. That was pretty, but it was

pretty hilarious. But Sonia is the one who's got

actual actual law school experience.

So Sonia, how is all this stuff playing out here like in the

film? Is this is, is this, is this

cool? Or is someone with legal

training? Do you find this?

You find this not believable? I don't even know where to start

with this because honestly, the, the I could start by hating on

the French, which is always a good thing to do, but English

and American common law is very, very, very distinctly different

from anything we do on the continent and especially so in

Germany. So in, in all honesty, the, the,

the most accurate answer I could give you is I don't fucking

know. To be honest.

We don't do like jury trials as I mean, we, we, we didn't really

happen have. You have you seen the movie

Anatomy before? No.

Oh man. So it was like 2 years ago, I

think it came out and it's a, it's a French German

construction about A, and I think it's actually in French

and German, but I think they, I think the trial happens in

France anyway, a couple, the husband from a man and wife

falls out of a second floor window from the house, which is

currently like in getting done up into the snow outside and

bricks and neck and dies. And we see that happen.

We don't see, we don't see the fall happen.

So we don't know what actually happened, whether he's pushed or

he fell or whatever happened. But we do see the trial.

But the trial's all done on a French court.

And it's so different to like anything that Rory, you would

have seen like, like it's, it's, you know how in a, in a, in a

court, like, like in this, you have a, a witness pro on the

stand. They get an examination from the

prosecution, a cross examination from the defence, the

opportunity for the prosecution into a rebuttal to anything

raised. And then it moves on kind of

thing. Nowhere anywhere near that, that

level of organised. It's like they bring a person

onto the onto the stands and then we just have a frigging

argument for 20 minutes and the judge and the judge goes right.

I'm tired of this next one. Just just a big like my lawyer

is going to shout at your lawyer and just like, and then I'm

going to chip in occasionally and and like and like people,

people can just see people are always arranged in a semi

circle. People get called upon to yell

at any time they want. It's just mental.

Actually amazing. It's a great movie.

It's a great movie that the the court case bit only takes up

like a small portion. They do have like like

testimony. They do have proper testimony,

like the witness comes up and just give like testimony and

then and then is is grilled. But it it's it's weird.

It feels so much more like flowing in a way that than than

the British courts. Mental ania, check that out.

We also don't get funny little wigs.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. So the guy's got a robe on, but

he hasn't got a funny little wig.

He's got like a, a crew, like a short crew cut hair and then a

then a cool little robe. Wild.

So we've had the end of the case and we get we get Kendrick up.

He he gets his cross examination and then we kind of find out the

background a little bit for this.

So an important detail. Lance Corporal Dawson had been

previously punished by Kendrick for defying an order and the

order for him was morally incorrect and him through his

own personal judgement made a moral choice to defy that order

and showed moral courage in doing so.

A guy had been punished by being restrained into his barracks

with only water and vitamin pills and then Dawson gave him

food and then was punished for giving him food.

So very important background to demonstrate his what we call in

the British legal system. But in Latin, the men's rear the

state of mind in order to carry out the crime.

So obviously we've we've seen that from that, from being

punished for defending someone doing the morally right thing.

He got punished. So when he gets into the order

to do something morally reprehensible, he's more likely

to follow it. That happens.

We have a whole cool bit where they talk about Code Reds and

whether or not Code Reds exist. And Kevin Bacon gets all the

different like Doctrine publications out and goes like

show me in here where it mentions Code Red.

Show me here where it mentions Code Red.

And then you see like Tom Cruise win that one by going to new bar

and go show me in here where it says where the mess hall is.

And it's like, well, you won't find out in there.

It's like, well, you're telling me the entire time you've been

in Guantanamo Bay, you've not had a single meal.

It's like, no, Sir, 3 square a day.

It's like, well, how did you get to the metal?

I just followed the crowd at chow time and.

It's like. Nothing further.

Boom. Brilliant.

That's a good move. It's like so theatrical how

Kathy just, like, walks out and just takes the book out of Kevin

Bacon's hands as he approaches the witnesses.

Like, yeah, that's trying to cool.

That was. That's mad swag.

It really is, yeah. It's really good.

They get they get one really big set back and this is like the

sort of end of the second act. SO11 sort of founding basis for

their case that they've that they haven't even queried in

their research prior is that both Dawson and Danny received

the order at the same time in the same place to to collect the

code read and then it through cross examination of God of

Downey, Downey's understand and it's Kevin Bacon gets out of

Downey that actually due to a flat tyre of the Jeep that would

get him back to his barracks in time.

He had to he had a run back. He was 45 minutes late and

therefore was not at the location at the time that the

defence has alleged that the order to give the code red was

made which was 5 minutes after the 1630 finishing briefing.

That he would have arrived back after like 1700 and and would

have missed that order for Dawson and Downey together could

not have received the order to give the code red.

Once Corporal Dawson gave Downey the order, laid the order to

give the code red which is that big like oh we fucked up moment.

The second one is Markinson, who's who's come out with the

road work once the trial begun, has an attack of his conscience

and decides to end his own life before he can take the stand.

So that's that's that fucked. So this is this causes like the

team to have a bit of a crash out.

Tom Cruise gets pissed. What do we think of what do we

think of Tom Cruise's drunk acting?

Had some thoughts on this actually.

You guys want to go first before I bring my opinions in on it?

No. Please proceed.

It doesn't appear to be really drunk at all.

There's no kind of slurring of words.

There's there's there's like a bit of like a dissent admission,

but he doesn't appear to be drunk at all.

But it's also not shitty. It can be so worsted kind of

kind of drunk acting like it's not flopping all over the stage

kind of thing. It's it doesn't look especially

believable, but it's not the worst I've seen.

But like, yeah, I, I guess my thoughts were it's like, I don't

think Tom Cruise drinks. That's what I was going to say.

Yeah, I don't think he drinks at all.

And when you look at drunk acting by, I'm just going to

quickly slow things down because I want to get this guy's name

absolutely right. So when?

So when you see John Dunsworth in Trailer Park Boys, rest in

peace. John Dunsworth gone through soon

as Mr Leahy. That's an incredible drug,

acting a man at the end of his rope, a man who's absolutely

lost in the sauce. He didn't drink.

He was a tea toler. Yeah.

I mean, I am the liquor, Randy, you know, like, hey, hey, hey.

He's a tea toler. Tom Cruise, I think is probably

never, like, allowed alcohol that touches, touches mouth.

I don't think as a person, Tom Cruise has ever really been

around people who have probably drunk much because it's like,

OK, Tom, you've got to be a drunk guy.

OK, So I'm, I'm, I'm just a bit off kilter and I'm a bit wet

because it's been raining. This is what drunk is, right?

I mean, like, I mean, like, I'm the fact that I have to have an

actor say you're drunk or something to that effect.

And then he pulls out a fucking bottle of bourbon and it's like,

yeah, it's like, no, it's not. It isn't the worst drunk acting.

It isn't comically bad, it's just not really believable.

And he also drives drunk as well immediately afterwards, which

isn't cool by the way. That's really not cool.

Yeah. Yeah, arrive alive, dude, you

know? You get the impression that his

frame of reference for drunk people is drunk people.

In the films. He's kind of, he's almost

mimicking a little bit of that. I mean, do me wrong, he doesn't

live like like a shut away. He's oh.

Absolutely, yeah. He's been asked in public and

seen people having parties and drinking before, you know, like

you're not naive to that. Yeah, but but yeah, you do get

the impression that he doesn't surround himself with, with

drinkers, isn't a drinker. I think, I think for him, I

don't want to speculate on the man's inner psyche, but but

going off stuff he said in interviews and stuff, he I don't

he believes in medicating in any way whatsoever.

And I don't think he would like to rest, like to divest control

of his own faculties to, to a, to a, to a substance.

You know, you remember that Ty Reidy did on God.

I don't want to get this wrong, but I think it might be 60

minutes or something when he was talking or he had an interview

where he was talking about how he he really disagreed with

Brooke Shields medicating for depression and.

And that's I'm. Getting.

I'm I'm not saying I'm not sick of Scientology thing.

Isn't it because that I got that against like psychiatry and

stuff like that? Do you know that he is actually

in the past? He's like like banned people

from drinking like on the cast of his films and stuff.

I've quickly just googled it on Top Gun Maverick.

He imposed A strict new alcohol rule for cast and crew.

It's sad and it's like obviously just Google.

Quick summary here saying of course Sauce has said that while

they may have wanted a drink, they understood the need to be

in the best possible shape for the demanding stunts and flight

scenes. Yeah, so they have that.

They have that big crash out about about, about the case as

you, as you rightly say, Tom Cruise then goes off and drinks,

drives for a little bit, but dodgy basically what happens is

he yells in the face of Joanne Galloway, she storms out.

He kind of has a quite a bit of a realisation.

He has a chat with. He has this kind of like picking

the hero up, motivational chat with with Weinberg.

Yeah. And again, Right.

So, right. This is some Aaron Sorkin

writing here. It's, you know, how I mentioned

earlier on about Joan Galloway giving like a bit of a speech

to, to to Cruz that seemed to come out of nowhere and then

somehow achieved its desire of effect.

Weinberg does the same thing here where he's like talking

about Kathy's dad, who's this renowned trial lawyer like that

that people have heard of. He obviously had a long, storied

career, passed away before Kathy could ever get into law school,

Lingering insecurity, daddy issues, stuff going on there.

He then tells Kathy, look, you're the guy doing this case.

If anyone can do this, it's you. And if I had to pick somebody

out of everybody in the world, between you and your dad, if I

had to pick one of you to defend these guys, I'd pick you every

day of the week and twice on Sundays.

And it's like, where are you based on that from?

He doesn't even. This is his first ever case and

he's losing it like but but you're a good friend, Weinberg,

I'll give you that. He's a very good hype man for

him. He's a good hype man so he he

says the right thing when he's needed but but I don't really

believe him. Well, you see, I think

Weinberg's in our monologue and way of thinking.

It's like, of course I'm going to choose him over that's that's

fucking dead. I think you're like, bring in an

urn with the dad's ashes in, put it at the desk and just go work

your magic, Sir. Like there's just like silence

did silence in the courtroom while Kathy seniors spirits just

projected in the mains of all the fucking jury in the panel

and the witnesses and it's like, God damn.

Yeah. So of course he's soon.

Of course he's going to choose the guy.

He was actually alive. It's brilliant.

There's another, there's another bit of tension they've put into

the movie here at this point, which I think is also a bit

spurious. And I've looked it up.

That's one of the only bits of research I've done, though one

of the things that's mentioned a few times, Kevin Bacon

introduces it I think quite early in the trial in that

scene, whether in the the bar and they have that falling out.

Yeah, you're a lousy fucking softball player, Jack is if you

accuse in the during your questioning, if you accuse

Colonel Jessup of any impropriety and then you are not

found to be correct, you will get court martials.

Yeah. And I was like, and I was like,

that seems like a really shit way to run a justice system if

you are hamstringing the questions that can be asked by

counsel to witnesses in such a manner.

Like, surely what goes on in the courtroom is already pretty

sealed. Yeah.

It doesn't need it doesn't need to become a matter of

disciplinary. It just needs to be proven or

disproven. Right.

Anyway, I looked it up and, yeah, in the lines you're

questioning, you can ask what you want.

It's not. You're not going to get run for

it. Yeah.

I mean, it'd be a different matter if he was standing on

Main Street or yelling it in the mess hall.

But he's asking. He's asking questions to court.

Law, yeah. It's like, I mean,

constitutionally protected speech, right?

I mean. Yeah.

But nevertheless, Despite that hanging over him, Galloway

convinces Kathy to put Jessup on the stand.

And then we are coming into like the final third of the movie,

which is like the it's not even a third, really, but it's like

the last sort of 25 minutes, I suppose is, is, is the

questioning of of Jessup. And this is like amazing stuff.

And I don't need to hype this up.

Like this is like wildly and popularly known to be amazing

stuff. But this is the best bit of the

movie of me. This is where it like kicks into

OverDrive because what it becomes.

So we've seen this intricate trial, relatively intricate of

disproving certain aspects of the case as we've been going.

And then after all that, after we've been through all that

evidence, because there's been such a concerted effort by by

Jessup and Co to cover their tracks, all that's left is

playing upon Jessup's arrogance, I suppose.

Obviously got No Fear of of caffeine just sees Kathy as like

a, you know, little piss Ant 2 ringer with with with one medal.

Who gives a shit about him? I'll come to this courtroom and

I'll stump all over him and then I'll walk out of here probably

get him rude again, you know, for for my trouble.

I don't give a shit. So he goes there thinking,

thinking. He's like King Louis and and.

I'm fucking sorry. I've got King Louie and trust

greens. Just chilling.

They're like so. So you claimed to be the king of

the swingers as you ordered this code, right?

Is that true? The jungle VIP rest this man

this this, this modest in uniform.

This man is not. How did he how did he become a

Marine? I got the rock, Sir.

Yeah, but I love all this really good acting.

Like head to head tom-tom Cruise kingly.

Fucking hell. Like where did that even come

from? I don't know right off my Dome

and and, but, but it's that awesome bit of like right.

So the big lie that they they span when they were concocting

this whole thing was that they were going to transfer Santiago

Santiago off the base. So that's the first thing he

presses on and there's a little bit of theatre.

I I fact checked this as well, but there's a little bit of

theatre And he brings the two airmen in from the Andrews Air

Force Base to sit in the courtroom as if they're about to

get calls for testifying, which you see Nicholson notice.

And the first, sorry, the first thing you asked about actually

is it is to do with Santiago's transfer off the base.

He remembers that when they were inspecting Santiago's cabin,

they looked in his wardrobes and seen that he hadn't packed.

So they go, right, this guy was going to get transferred off the

base, first flight in the morning.

He was founded at 0100 flights at 06.

And yet all his clothes are neatly hanging, these

footlockers neatly folded. He hasn't packed a single thing.

We've got his phone records. He didn't call a single person.

He wrote 14 letters in nine months trying to get off the

base. And then when he gets his

transfer order, he doesn't tell a soul, doesn't ring his parents

to tell him he's coming, doesn't ring his friend to ask him to

pick him up at the airport. Not a single soul is informed.

So we'll come back to that. Meanwhile, like he he, he starts

talking about when you get an order to, to, to men follow it.

He's like, yeah, yeah, you might, you never worked in a

forward area, you never worked up threat, blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah here, you know, when when you give an order, you

follow it or people who are in danger, it's like grave danger.

It's like, is there any ever kind all all that stuff.

It's so good. So you go through all that and

then finally it catches them in the, in the, the, the

contradiction, which is if you give an order and it has to be

followed and your men unquestionably follow them.

And there's never any risk of any men not following your

orders. And you order them not to touch

Santiago. Why did you order Santiago to be

transferred off the base? I love that.

And he's like, and he's like, so and that's when he starts to get

like really hostile, really pissy.

He's like that before then he's like these two Marines are in

trial for their lives. Please tell me that you've got

something more than a phone bill like, like all that.

I love doing the impression, by the way, I don't know what's

come across. And and he's talking about like,

you know, his own importance into national security.

He's just, he's just super like up his own arse, super arrogant.

And eventually he's like, I want the truth.

You can't handle the truth. Incredible speech, which is pure

Aaron Sorkin like awesomeness. Get through the whole speech and

you have that clap bit, that clap bit where Kathy like just

almost brushes it off and just goes straight back into the

attack again, having just like ignored that big cluster from,

from, from, from Jessup was like, did you order the code

red? You got that right out here,

which is phenomenal. And then it all goes quiet.

Yeah. And then like, he's still like,

yeah, he's still like, pissed. And then he doesn't understand.

Like everyone like, it's all going to be quiet.

The judge, like, orders the board to step out the room to go

to an entry room. They start getting up.

Everyone rises, they get up and they start walking out.

And he's like, what's going on? This is ridiculous.

I don't have to sit here for this.

I'm going to get on a play. And there's like a moment of

silence where I think Kathy needs to like indicate to to

the, the the US Marines, Kevin Bacon's character that like, you

need to take over this bit now. And he's like, yeah, OK, we need

to, we need to like, hang the trial for a second.

And then he gets up, tries to walk away.

The judge calls for the the MPs to come.

And he's like, what's going fuck.

And he's like taking a second. Then he like, looks at Kathy and

he spins towards Kathy. And then, like, lunges at him.

He's like, I'm gonna RIP out your eyes.

And you, yeah, go RIP out your eyes and piss down your dead

skull. You fuck with a round Marine.

Fuck it. Oh man, So good.

Yeah. But what I love about this is so

that's always that's the big climax, right?

I love that there's a there's a there's a few cool bits that

have like led to this moment. You you see the seeds of it

coming like like Mars off. You see, we've been watching the

whole movie. We've seen like how arrogant

Jessup is. And like, as always in in in

media, like evil defeats itself in in eventually.

You see this like Stephen King all the time, like the big bad

actually ends up being its own demise.

He's his own demise. He's his own worst enemy.

He's so cocky and he's so like arrogant and he just thinks he's

untouchable and he thinks he's so important.

He's got such a like an overinflated sense of his own

self importance that he thinks he's bigger than the

institutions around him. And because this is Aaron Sorkin

and he believes in a better world, he's proven not to be the

case. So so there's that.

And you see it come up a couple of times where like he pushes

himself a little bit too far. He's a he's a bit like, he's a

bit pissy with Kathy. He's like, I'd prefer it if you

called me Colonel or Sir when I'm in here.

I believe I've earned that right.

And then and then he disrespects the court straight away.

And then the, and the judge is like I, I prefer if you called

me judge or your honour, I'm quite sure I've earned that

right smack. I love the judge by the way.

He's really good. Is so yeah.

Jack Nicholson's character is just a lack of respect and in

fact, hostility to to coffee is just the lengths he goes to.

It's like, I mean, he uses some pretty choice slurs about his

uniform for a start. Like like the native reporting

name for the Big 15 fighter, you know, for just he he infers he's

got a bit of a pretty gay mouth. At one point.

I forgot the actual words he used, but it's very much like,

oh, he's he really is a horrible, degenerate piece of

shit. I mean.

He's not, he's not that senior an officer, by the way.

Yeah. Yeah, he fucking isn't Italian.

It's crazy, but I think that's one of the big bollocks.

Yeah, he goes around the place like he owns the world.

Yeah, yeah, he might be. He might be getting a I was

going. To say soon he's a he's a

Colonel. Like like I don't, I don't know

about your military, but Lieutenant Colonel, this is the

most pre evolent rank we have among amongst officers is

there's so bloody many of them and he's just wandering higher

than that. He's a he's a man.

Yeah, he's fuck, he's the comment or minesweepers, but he

acts like he's the First Sea Lord.

He's yeah, he's not even a Commodore.

He's less than a Commodore. So, so, so he's a, he's a

Colonel equivalent, equivalent in the in the wrong name, at

least to a foreign captain. So, you know, next above that is

Brigadier, Brigadier Commodore, you know, and vice versa.

Yeah. So he's, he's, he's not, he's I

had a more senior officer attend my fucking pass out when I was

as the VIP when I was rating, for God's sake.

Yeah. I mean, and like, again, this

guy who was essentially A relatively small cog in a big

machine as whole brand is based on the fact that I'm this guy

defending America's borders against cheques, notes Cuba.

Yeah. And it's like fucking I, I am, I

am defending America against Cuba's not going to fucking

invade in America. You know, like it actually.

The Americans decided the other way and failed.

So I don't know there's really regarding who there and why not

fences? That means fucking the movie.

We should do it's. But it's wild of me.

It's like, it's like even then in like in a War was released in

1991 out of nations that were an existential risk to the United

States of America, right? Cuba's like going to be close to

the bottom, very close to the bottom.

You know, it's like and there's this whole very much Oh, he's

like and because because it's a reputation he builds for

himself. He's his own PR kind of guy,

isn't he? All these stories like, ah, he

talks softly and carrying on that division kind of thing.

And and he got the impression that he kind of that he kind of

did OK and does not storm. And then they've then they've

given him this, this kush job in Cuba, which all of a sudden is,

is the most fucking high stakes job in the world.

I said we've got to hold these goddamn Cubans back.

We've got to hold them back. Guys, I think what the Hell's

going to happen? Holy shit.

You know, fucking the the yeah, they're going to invade America

and bring loads of high quality dark rum shit.

If America was so deeply still involved in the Cold War, they

wouldn't have intervened in the Gulf War, you know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's just just ridiculous.

Yeah. So yeah, he spins.

He spins a big fatwat about how great he is.

And he's just a he's just a career politician with a with a

crass mouth, isn't he? That's that's essentially it.

Only I can hold the Buena Vista Social Club at Bay.

Yeah, yeah, your Latin rhythms are held away by the strong

right hand of Uncle Sam. And the strong left work for El

Presidente. It's.

Do you want your kids to grow up in a Banana Republic and start

up a Coca-Cola Republic that they're now fuck?

Every day I live 300 feet away from the Taquita lady.

Funny, her bananas of me. Listen, I live 300 feet away

from 1950s American cars that are still kept in good condition

and other Cuban stereotypes. It's horrifying out there.

Good God. It's like, and that's probably a

Cuban cigar E smoking as well as you're in the scene as well.

So sure. Yeah, you know, I was told in

beg a stupid common amount that that whole I eat breakfast 4000

feet away from. So I I eat breakfast in my new

buns. I eat breakfast roughly 40

metres away from my own staff, which seems considerably worse

than Cubans because they are intend on making my life a

living hell and I don't even get a fence between myself and them.

Well, you know, all right, I'm, I'm, I've done pretty well not

to mention it so far, but there's a scene earlier on where

they talk to talk to Kendrick and he's like, you've got a

problem with Kendrick and he's like, no, I like you Navy boys

just fine. Every time we need to go

somewhere to fight, you guys always give us a ride.

I'm like, hey, first, first of all, Sonia, you're correct.

Fuck him. Because his branch of the

military wasn't involved in the in the in the largest amphibious

operation ever to have taken place, Operation Overlord,

whereas mine was and and one second mine actually.

Yeah, we will. Doing so much.

This movie could be improved by the introduction of Lieutenant

Commander Royal Navy Mike Dunbar entering the scene every time

Besop opens his mouth and saying cheers dids.

Yeah, just did. All right, okay.

All right, Matt. Right.

Let's do it. No, let's do it.

Let's do it right. There's something about we've

been nibbling the edges of it for a while now.

Let's just get it all out there that the way they talk about how

important they are, they're fucking Gitmo is ridiculous.

They're talking as if they're there's a hot war going on

between Cuba and America. There's not right.

Like it's ridiculous. You want to put, you want to put

a jacket on if you like a camouflage jacket.

If they see an officer, they might think the Cubans.

I think it's someone they want to take a shot at.

Yeah, they they might if they if they don't care about being

naked off the face of the earth by the world's largest military.

It's just bigger than the next 25 militaries down as well

combined. Like, what a fucking stupid

thing to say. No, no, I think, I think being I

think being a Cuban soldier on opposite Contana base, one of

the safest place to go because no one's going to start shit

there. Yeah.

Ridiculous. I am betting you like I, I don't

know, you guys probably remember like what, what milt Twitter was

like 4 to five years ago. And I am fucking certain that

the rest of the Marine Corps would constantly, constantly be

like Cuba is not a real deployment.

Yeah. It's like the same as Japan is

not a real deployment. South Korea is not a real

deployment because because all they do is sit around behind a

fence and eat chicken or something.

Right, so. Mean at least there's actually

been exchanges of gunfire on the the allegedly demarcation

between between North and South Korea.

There was like the axe murder incident when North Korean

troops killed some American troops, admittedly back in the

60s, I think. But I don't think there's been

any actual, actual violence between the the Americans and

the Cubans. And fucking Chuck Nicholson's

scatting those Cuban cigars somehow.

So there's clearly some kind of. There is is distinctly more

violence between United States Marines and elderly Japanese

men. For some reason they keep

beating them up randomly. I came across an article about

not like half a year ago. I don't know why there's more

going on everywhere else rather than than wherever the hell

Colonel Jessup is. Ridiculous.

I hate that guy. Yeah, like, like I said, I guess

you're like big, big, big Cyprus op Shader, like Akateri, Akateri

vibes. People go on about you get like

guys in the RAF who get like op shader medals and stuff for, for

like working in the rear echelon Akateri in Cyprus.

And I, I used to be before I got married, I was seeing somebody

who was in the RAF and, and I was deployed in the Falkland

Islands on, on HMS Clyde at the time.

It's like 10 years ago, I was on HMS Clyde at the time and we, I

remember having to go to the little shop in, in, in RF Mount

Pleasant and, and spending a tenner on a little 100 megabyte

Wi-Fi card so I could have like a, a WhatsApp phone call with

her. And she spent the entire time

complaining at the, the beach club, the beach club, the beach

club at RF Akitiri was out of action.

So she just had a sunbathe outside instead.

And I was like, yeah, OK, I'm on the arse end of the planet.

Like, like the the only the only shipping I've seen since I've

been down here is one Russian AGI.

What is going on? Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah. Bad tool.

Oh, bad. Yeah, it takes it back, though.

Good times. Really good so bad times to me

back. Shall we take a break and we'll

come back and do some categories?

Yep. Colonel, what's going on?

I did my job. I do it again to get on a plate

and go on back to my base. I'm not going anywhere.

Colonel MPs guard the Colonel. Captain Ross.

What the hell is this? I'm being charged with a crime.

Trial by court martial. Is that what this is?

I'm being charged with a crime. Rob Marie, Colonel.

Jessamine, do you understand these?

Rights as I spread them to you. You have no idea how to defend

the issue. What you did was weak in a

country. That's all you did.

Quotes of the movie. Have you ever got any favourite

quotes? I've I've got a few, but I'll

let you guys go first. So many Sonia, do you want to

jump in with with the with the quotes on Me too.

I have one that I would like to apply to someone right now,

which is you are like 7 of the strangest women I've ever met.

That's good. I like, I like it when they're

in the former captain's office of Captain W, he says.

Commander Galloway, why don't you go get yourself a cup of.

Coffee. Talk about you behind your back.

Yeah, I love that. That's good.

I'm on the IMDb quotes page. Most of the Jessup Cafe back and

forth is on here. Yeah, which I mean, it is very,

very good, but we can't quote all of that.

I love just a little one liner. Maybe if we work at it, we can

get Dawson charged with the Kennedy assassination.

I. Love that.

That's an incredibly soaking line.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, right back to the subject

of Colon Jester being full of shit.

Like, like, like the way he talks here.

You see, Danny, I can deal with the bullets and the bombs and

the blood. I don't want money and I don't

want medals. What I do want for you is to

stand there in that white uniform with your Harvard mouth

and extend me some fucking courtesy.

Your Harvard mouth me nicely. I think your Harvard mouth, I

thought it was a gay mouth thing you were saying.

But tell your Harvard mouth. I can deal with the bullets and

the bombs and the blood or fucking pull everyone.

Like. We've all done stuff.

We've all done stuff, mate. Some of the fuck down.

You know what he's like. He's like, he's like, what the

fuck did you just fucking think about me, you little bitch?

I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy

Seals and I've been involved in numerous secret vegans, Al

Qaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills.

I am training guerrilla warfare and the top sniper in the entire

US armed forces. Nothing to me but just another

target. I wipe you the fuck out with

precision the likes of witches that I've been seen before the

surf. Mark my fucking words.

You think you can get away with saying that shit to be of the

Internet? Think again fucker.

As we speak, I'm contacting by secret network is across the USA

when your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare

for the storm, maggot. The storm the wipes out of the

pathetical thing you call your life.

You're fucking dead, kid. I could be anywhere, anytime.

I kill you over 700 ways and that's just my bare hands.

Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I

have access to the entire arsenal of the United States

Marine Corps and I don't have to finish the Navy SEAL Copy pastor

there because that is from Colonel Jessup's autobiography,

Very, very, very carved and it was cell wall in Leavenworth.

Weinberg and Kathy meet in Galloway for the first time.

Come out of Galloway. Lieutenant Kathy is considered

to be the best litigator in our office.

Successfully plea bargain. 44 cases in nine months.

One more and I get a set of stick knives.

Love that. And then and then that comes

back later on where she's like where he's about to leave and

she after you said he's drinking, crash out and she

goes, sorry, I cast you a set of steak knives.

That was good. Yeah.

There was some crash outs in this film, actually.

Yeah. Just to kind of really quickly

mention something about the relationship between between

Coffee and Demi Moore's character, the name which

escapes me. Joanne Galloway.

Galloway, Thank you. So my wife watched the first

like maybe 10 minutes of the film with me before she went

upstairs to her lair when she would just not Nash when she

just lie down. She was tired.

She didn't return to some weird, strange lair that's full of

horded beasts and stuff. But.

But yeah, but like before, before she left, she was like,

oh, well, they're obviously going to fall in love because

it's a 90s film and there's no romantic supply.

And that's meant I think that's. That's great.

And and that's a good, that's a good Sorkinism, right?

So, so Sorkin is pretty good at dangling, but not not fulfilling

a romantic subplot in characters.

They I've been watching the The West Wing again and they kind of

eventually, eventually, like 6-5 or six seasons in, they kind of

start doing it. But for like ages, years and

upon years, you've got this kind of like really good close

working relationship between Josh Lyman, the deputy White

House chief of staff, and his and his assistant Don Salamos.

And like a lesser show would have made that like a will.

They won't they thing like straight away and just had it

going the entire time. But this doesn't do it.

There's just like 2 professionals who who are

slightly, slightly beyond the edge of like the things like

work life and work husband, but but they keep it professional.

Yeah, that's that's good. Another good, another good quote

from the crash out, Kathy to Joe.

Oh, I'm sorry. I keep forgetting you were sick

the day they taught law at law school.

That that was that was bars. That was like, hold up.

His writing is indeed this fire that was like sick the day of

the talk. There's a few bits though where

you hear like the the Aaron Sorkin tempo and Tombra, like

the the rhythm of the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He has a very interesting way of writing.

And I mentioned it earlier on, you know, there's a bit where

Galloway is having a go at a cafe when she first meets them

and she says I don't like your fast food, slick ass Persian

bazaar, blah, blah, blah, blah side of law.

There's a similar thing that Lieutenant Weinberg does when

he's having the the discussion with Galloway about why she why

he doesn't like the defendants because of what they did.

She's like, why don't you hit? Why you hit him so much?

She goes, they beat up on a winkling.

That's all they did. The rest is just smoke fills

coffeehouse crap. They tortured him to matter.

A weaker kid. They didn't like him, so they

killed him. And why?

Because he couldn't run very fast.

But the smoke fills coffeehouse crap.

Like little things like that, bits they all like.

You can picture that when he says when he's like The West

Wing and like The Newsroom. It was all like stuff like that,

like lots of little bars. Yeah.

He's a big fan of rhythm and and Tambra when he's when he's, when

he's putting his lines together. I really, I really enjoyed just

the, the this fucking heat is making me absolutely crazy lying

again from Colonel Jessup, like because again, it's just him

trying to build this reputation as this crazy guy who's on the

edge. It's like, no, you, you

literally live here. You are probably quite

acclimatised by this point to the heat, you know, Knock it

off. You know what he should do?

A fucking tour of duty in Ashington, right?

Him and his boys should March up Station Road, you know.

They'll get accosted by Mickey T you'll roll up on his little

wheelchair, he'll try and sell them some used vapes, you'll

demand a kebab off them. They won't know what to do.

Yeah, sorry. What we haven't talked about

really is the the relationship between Dawson, Lance Corporal

Dawson and Kathy. One of the sort of deep plots of

the movie is that those guys are lawyer heads at the beginning.

Dawson fundamentally doesn't respect Kathy.

Dawson obviously takes his career in the US Marines

incredibly seriously. What, what, what is it?

It's it's unit core gods country or something like that, isn't

it? That's the order unit core God

country. So for him, his entire identity

is, is consumed by being AUS Marine, which is understandable,

by the way. Like I remember when I first

joined the Navy, like 11 going on 12 years ago.

I remember being hungry for it. You know, I did my basic

training as a rating got transferred, came an officer did

like, you know, the nine months of initial officer training that

entire time you're like on this, you know, your your identity

gets essentially kind of reset almost.

You know, you you were this one person before you came in and

like a couple years later, you are fundamentally this different

person. I understand.

So I understand where like Dawson is, he's he's obviously

making a career of British Lance Corporal, relatively junior

making a career of it. But you can see that he's been

embraced by the corps and he's he's embraced it.

So the fact that he sees someone like Cathy, who's left-handed,

who's been for nine months, has got the military bearing of a,

of a smashed in biscuit tin, like it's the military bearing

of my cat. Like, you know, like, like,

yeah, I get it. He doesn't respect this guy

because he's a silly and a uniform like 100% and like one

of the one of the background plots, it happens.

It happens only in like 3 beats that are spread out about 45

minutes apart each. Eventually you get like Dawson

learning to respect Kathy for for what he is, which is not an

amazing naval operator, but he's a trial lawyer, a litigator and

he respects him for that. The skilly, the skill and the

dedication and the hard work, he's shown doing that.

And then at the end of the case, of course, Dawson and Downey are

not guilty of the murders, but they are guilty of misconduct

and are, you know, removed from the service.

And at first, I think it's Downey who's saying, like, what

did we do wrong? We followed the order.

What did we do wrong? It's like we weren't supposed to

follow the order. We were supposed to protect

Private Sentia, was supposed to protect Willie and look after

him like that's the core value that you didn't do that you

should have done. And it's only when Kathy says to

him you don't need to have a badge on your arm to have on it.

Yeah, it's when he goes like turn and it does that does does

the there's an officer on deck. It does the awful like both of

them indoors. And the headgear salute would

never happen in a million years, but but they did it to make a

point, right? And it rhymes with the the

previous scene where it doesn't salute even again.

They were both in torso headgear.

Anyway, it's not the same thing. And I I checked it's not the

same thing in America either. Yeah.

So anyway, we all went. Through it did the fuck out of

Colin in Flensburg with that. Yeah, it was.

There's an officer on deck. Yeah, Final quote.

To move this thing along a bit, it's got to be.

It's got to be the big. I mean, we know what the court's

going to be, right? You know, I want the truth.

You can handle the truth, son. We live in a world that has

walls, and those walls have to be guarded by a man with guns.

Who's going to do it? You.

You, Lieutenant Weinberg, either greater responsibility then you

could possibly fathom. You beat the Santiago and you

curse the Marines. You have that luxury.

You have the luxury of not knowing what I know.

That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives.

And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible

to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because

deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want

me on that wall. You need me on that wall.

We use words like honour, cold, loyalty.

We use these words as a backbone of a life spent defending

something. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time of the inclination to explain myself to

a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom

that I provide and then questions the manner in which I

provided. I would rather you just said

thank you and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up

a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn

what you think you're entitled to.

Did you order the cold red Jakarta?

Yeah. OK, be man.

The speech is making it up like like Jessup Thing sees the guy

in the trolley problem pulling the lever.

He. Got it.

Totally, yes. He's actually the guy who put

the people on the tracks. Spot on.

Colonel Jessop has killed more Americans than Cubans in this.

Movie Listen, this one guy was fucking bad at running and if I

didn't execute him, who knows how many other people could have

been killed. Could have been killed.

Jesus, you know what a guy whose job is to stand on a wall to be

bad at running? You absolute half that fucking

waste. This guy wasn't at 105% fucking

physical fitness. Do you know how many other

people might have been killed if this man didn't drown in his own

blood? This one guy they call the

pickup private because his job is to drive the Jeep.

Give that to him. Yeah, yeah.

It's like, look, now you'll pick up private.

I know the last one also had the ability to get girls to come

off. I only learn that skill too, but

just drive the cheap pick people up.

You know, it's it's it's it's wild to me.

It's it's crazy. I mean, obviously I got second.

I mean it all like just kind of like this.

Once again, it's just like feeding a dress of soul.

I I I am the entirety of the US military.

I I am I made the BBC. I.

Made. It every sellers I made it

bloody hell hot. You did nothing but make a

country weaker today. Yeah.

All right. I believe you.

Needle drops. There is one decent needle drop

in this movie, Hound Dog, written by Jerry Lieber and Mike

Stoller. Yeah, not the others Presley

version or the Big Mama Thornton.

Yeah, I know. It's that awesome.

Hell yeah, dude. Really good yeah, awesome next

category IMDb trivia. We've covered some of it.

I'll I'll do some more though. Tom Cruise's Jack Nicholson

impression when the characters are quoting Colonel Jessup was

not scripted. Demi Moore and Kevin Pollock's

reactions were genuine. It's a lazy That's not the most

interesting fact to begin with, but the I mentioned it earlier

on, the original play was inspired by an actual Code Red

Guantanamo Bay. Lance Corporal David Cox and

nine other enlisted men turned up a fellow Marine and severely

beat him for stitching to the Naval Criminal Investigative

Service. Cox was acquitted and then they

honourably discharged in 1994. David Cox mysteriously vanished

and his bullet ridden body was found three months later.

His murder remains unsolved. But the that's that's from IMDb,

but I've got some extra detail on that as well.

So the the case itself was based on a real incident.

Aaron, Aaron Sorkin's sister who's a Navy Jag lawyer or was

at the time talking about hazing gone wrong involving a code red

from a superior had the name of the guy.

Pfc William Alvarado was the basis for Santiago.

He survived and didn't die and the and the other Marines were

court martialed, obviously not convicted of murder.

So they they've upped the stakes by having him die during the

hazing to make it obviously like a meaty case for a movie and or

Broadway play. Got a goof that I noticed last

night. So the dialogue after after

Martinson kills himself and Kathy said he put a 45 calibre

gun in his mouth or whatever, but that's a Beretta M9.

It's a 92, just a nine millimetre pistol.

Yeah. So basically garbage film.

Hated it. I wanted to shoot myself after

watching it just because they got that one particular gun.

Well. A good thing that you mentioned

earlier on about the the lack of a romantic subplot.

So an unnamed executive gave Aaron Sorkin a note.

If Tom Cruise and Demi Moore aren't going to sleep each

other, why is Demi Moore a woman?

Yeah. And he was, and he was.

Yeah. And he responded.

I said the obvious answer. Women have purposes other than

to sleep with Tom Cruise. That's incredible.

Yeah. Brilliant.

I mean, I would argue, I mean, Tom Cruise doesn't really give.

Right. On the subject of Tom Cruise.

We've, we've kind of skirted around to the subject of of, of

Tom for a while. One of the other things we we

haven't talked about, and it's not about business really, but I

don't find him convincing with any of the female leads in a

romantic subplot. I've never seen him in a movie

where he has a romantic subplot with a woman where it's worked

for me, with the one exception of being Eyes Wide Shut because

he's married to Nicole Kidman and the whole plot of the movie

hinged in the fact that they have a weird energy.

Example, Edge of Tomorrow with Emily Blunt, don't buy it.

And everyone loves that movie and I love that movie, but don't

buy that. Don't buy that romance.

Oblivion with Olya, what's her name?

Oh, can't remember. My name, my tongue.

But yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't buy that one either,

really. I don't know whether it's a

blast or a curse. Kalenko.

It's he's, he's blessed or cursed with the physical

aesthetics of a sexy man, but incredibly sexless vibes, Yeah.

Oh, topical Maverick with with John Mcconnelly.

Yeah, and they have that. They have that sex scene which

is just the two of them rolling on in a bed laughing at each

other. That's that's what do you think

sex is, man? That's so weird.

It's just that like doing this, the whole bit like big big big

toothy laugh face that he does on interviews and stuff.

So what do you think sex is? That's that's it, man.

Yeah, that's that's that's it to him.

So say lying in bed with a lady and laughing.

Crazy. There's a couple of more goofs.

So we mentioned already the Judge Advocate has the same

qualified immunity as any of her attorney.

Or in your defence. So you wouldn't get court

martials for asking a question of Jessup?

Yeah, yeah, you, you. Maybe he would if he was found

in contempt of the court and was saying mental shit.

But just doing a line of questioning shouldn't fill him

with a fear regard. You know, when they bring in the

two US Air Force airmen in to spook Colonel Jessop because he

thinks he's got a smoking gun with with the testimony of these

two guys. But actually he's brought them

in a set dressing because he was like, what were they going to

say on the stand? Oh, that they had no

recollection. You know, that wouldn't have

worked in real life because witnesses like that don't just

sit in the courtroom waiting to be called forward.

They're kept in an ante room and then brought in purely for their

testimony because they don't watch the rest of the trial

happening. Yeah.

What else has gone on? Salutes?

Ridiculous. Yeah.

Because of that already people salute me like her gear indoors

Mental. Would this movie have been

better with Doctor Jack Ryan? Like, isn't Jessup supposed to

become some sort of more important national security?

Like, this could start as Ryan requesting some sort of

investigation into what's going on.

Like like this. We want this guy on our Security

Council, but there's like people dying off at his command despite

him only being in Cuba. That's SUS.

Look at that. You would, you know what it is.

And in that case, he would totally dispatch Ding Travers to

investigate, wouldn't he? He would send Ding Travers and

John Clark to to see just what the Hell's going on down there.

Oh, this is a totally different movie.

Totally different. Movie.

Good movie, totally different one.

To on the ground investigation into the cultures of yes of of

the Code Red. That would be the movie.

The movie would be called Code Red.

Called Code Red and it would be sick.

Tom Clancy's Code Red. Code Red.

That would be absolutely sick. I want to watch that film when

he would, he would need to write that film.

Sean Connery is the judge. Nice.

I believe I have found that right.

You watch yourself. As far as Doctor Richard Kimball

goes, he could have been a specialist witness for the

defence. Specialist medical witness?

Yeah, defence. Yeah, lactic acidosis.

Yeah, all that stuff. Yeah, President James Marshall.

This movie has an actor called James.

Marshall I was like, holy shit, man.

Yeah, but as President James Marshall, could you imagine

President James Marshall in this movie as the as the president?

He's he's like, he storms, storms in at the end.

He's like. Out of my courtroom.

Big swinging Dick of the executive branch.

Get off of my base, get out of my Marines.

Get out of my core. Get out of my.

Core. That sounds incredibly

homoerosic. Sucking in blood out of.

My Marines. Was like, oh, we're.

Discussing the military break, It's not if it's underway.

Energy over here. Jeffrey Wright could have been

anybody in this movie. Jeffrey Wright could have been

good on the Kevin Bacon rule. Yeah, definitely.

As as a as you're not standard Marine, Yeah.

Who's the thinking? The thinking man's Marine who

still wears the green uniform but actually has something

between his his ears. A freshly eaten crayon.

He was since paying for that one.

You should you should refer to them as Naval Interim

Infantrymen just to piss off any potential Marine listening and.

His Majesty's jollies soldier, and a sailor too.

Not my words, the words of rigid Kipling.

Oh. Shit.

Oh shit, Rigid Kipling was crazy for.

That one yo. As frightening as this fire.

Waggon, right? King Louie, It's all comes back.

Awesome spot, King Louie. Holy shit.

Everything flows from from from Roger Kaplan, clearly.

Oh, yeah. Oh, well, yeah, exactly.

God, you may talk of gin and beer when you're quoted safe out

here in fucking Guantanamo Bay. Quoted safe out there.

But when it comes to saucer, you do your work on water and lick

the blooming bits of him. That's got it.

Yeah. All right.

OK. Couldn't get in, everybody.

Yeah, that's the Ding Chavez award for missed opportunity of

the movie. Clearly the ghost of of Uzu

Kipling appearing as a first ghost.

But apart from that, God, I think this movie nails it

largely the only thing right. So I, I get the impression that

whilst this movie is loved by me and plenty of people I know, I

think Navy barristers every everybody in the military kind

of likes it. I guess it's a good movie.

What it doesn't do, I don't think very well.

I kind of like it, but what it doesn't do, and maybe this is a

good thing actually is it doesn't like have a counterpoint

for Nathan Jessup is like actually the military's actually

good. Actually, it kind of owns the

problem and that like the most powerful guy is a fucking shit

eel and the guy who got passed over Markinson has just killed

himself in a motel room. The the, the, the system does

not reward meritoriously. It's political Wheeling and

dealing just like anywhere else. There's a swamp that needs to be

drained, but there isn't like there's not like a good version

of Jessup to to make us feel comfortable.

You know, it's not like clear and present danger where like

President Jack Ryan at the end, like like stands up to the

president and is like, I don't dance.

It's like it's the old so my 2 step Jack and he's like, I don't

dance and then leaves. You know, it's like that.

I don't know. Is that a missed opportunity?

Actually, it's kind of a win. I'm not really sure.

I think it is a win. While it's not a game changer

and I don't think it would like kind of make the film much

worse, much better just to have just a few seconds of the

incident with the alleged or they were aiming at me.

I was going to shoot a damn kind of thing.

We'll be interested in the stage was how to work that into the

film kind of thing because is it those kind of pose more

questions and stuff and it would add a few more layers to it

actually in the storyline and stuff.

It's like I say, it's it's it's presence or absence isn't a game

breakout or change up. But still it will be

interesting. Interesting, isn't it?

So you got, like, shorts. You got a short scene at the

beginning of the movie of the initial assaults, which results

in Santiago's death, right? Yeah.

There's a version of this movie where they did like, a bit of a

Rashomon thing. And every and every time we see

someone's testimony, we get a flashback to what their

interpretation of the events were.

And you got a whole and you got a whole like, oh, well, from

this, from private Danny's perspective, this is what he

saw. From daughter's perspective,

this is what he heard. From Kendra's perspective, this

is what he said and what they took it as.

You know, there's, there's, there's none of that.

There's just, it's all the courtroom.

I like it for being all in the courtroom because it's all in

your imagination and you are just there because I think it

would distract from the compelling performances and and

the intricacies of the language. I'm I'm, I'm of no doubt that

like robbery. And I had those conversations

when they were putting the movies together and he's

directing it and looking at the screenplay and going, well,

actually, should we and to cut like should we, should we shoot

some stuff and to cut it on the editing to like show what what

they're talking about? Or should we just stay in the

courtroom and stay there and and they obviously made the right

call there, I think to to keep it all in the courtroom, right?

Should we talk about the ML Kua MD kua MH kua.

So that's the most this is this is this is this is this is your

opt for most likely course of action, your most dangerous

course of action and almost hilarious course of action.

Most likely course of action is what they expected it to be,

right? So you assign the case to really

junior council who's got lots of form for taking plea deals and

not taking things to trial. What the most likely outcome of

this is, is that they get the 12 years for a, for a guilty plea

that was offered at the beginning.

And those guys spend the better part of their lives in, in, in

Leavenworth. And Kathy gets his set of steak

knives and moves on. And the whole thing doesn't

happen really. That's the most likely course of

action. And then terrifyingly, that

means that Jessop was unencumbered on his rise to the

top, goes on to be the director of operations for the security

Advisor. And then Jesus, you know, his

career treachery from there is, you know, either national

security advisor himself proper or remains in the military,

becomes like head of the Joint Chiefs.

He's a Colonel at the moment, but you can see him rising up.

Brigadier, whatever Major General, up to general, you

know, you can see like 10 years from this, 15 years from this,

he's he's occupying like 4 star. Terrifying.

Yeah. Or even more scary is he's in

the Oval Office. Oh, jeez.

Presidential run would be horrific.

I feel like I'm in the dead zone and I've just shook that bad

guy's hand and I've and I've had the visions that, you know, live

free or die. You have Jet in your eye and

that motherfuckers. So, so this is the HW

presidency, isn't it? This movie came out in.

So there's a there's a version of this where I don't think he's

on the ticket in time for George W, No.

He wouldn't be. But he's certainly around to be

a contender. I don't know, around Obama's

second term. I mean, you know what, you're

probably right. He would have, he would have ran

against Obama in kind of timeline terms, right?

And. By the time you've you've done

out your military career and you're an old guy.

I mean, he's what was he meant to be about that about 50 odd?

So I mean, let's work it out. So he did, he did Vietnam, so he

did few 2000. So 60s to 70s.

So he's been in for he. Could have you could have been

as young as 1819 during that. Yeah, so he's 60s, late 50s,

Well. Maybe, in which case, actually

maybe he's looking at maybe running against him in the 2008

election, Then yeah, maybe it's like a it's like a reasonable

time. Maybe.

Maybe he's like a contender in the primaries and loses out to

George W Bush. You know what the really

hilarious thing would be? Seeing him doing a presidential

run within that kind of time frame and like, debating

against, for instance, Obama, especially because he'd have

Kendra. Because it's hype man, possibly

even as VP contender, and Kendrick would be trying so hard

not to say something super fucking racist.

Kendrick by this point would have been like dishonourably

discharged for like shooting some children in like, not even

a war zone in like Baltimore or something.

This is your hilarious course of action.

Check. Will it be like just like

Kendrick loudly sweating and trying not to say something

racist while while while his boss he was like The Walking

embodiment of the Navy SEAL copy pasta gets in a debate with

Barack Obama? Can you imagine?

Like, yeah, we just got the we just got the California poll

figures in 89% of voters don't want their baby kissed by

Nathan. 57% of those people thought that was a fairly or

very important issue. Yeah, it's like he looks like

you would eat it. That's like.

I'm just trying to picture him like in in one room with Bernie

Sanders. That was Could you imagine that?

He's pretty getting a question on gays in the military.

Could you just imagine him like answering that?

Like having to and having to like.

I am trying to be nice about it if you ordered that code red.

Oh my God. They attract enemy radar.

They muck about. They always want to sit on the

captain's table. The victim of the gay boat.

Why are you being gay with your men?

I'm here with the commanding officer of HMS Gooch.

But it's just like literally just like literally giving oral

sex suicide on. 90% of injuries in the Naval Service are

sustained to the people. This is a deep cut that's

probably not going to play with the handful of non non British

listeners will have. And in fact, actually I think

more of our listeners and non British than there are British.

I'll put some I'll put some video footage up as it's

happening. Yeah.

So we can see. Yeah, we are, obviously.

Referencing. Brass Eye, which is which is the

epitome of fake news. That's that's the greatest fake

news ever created. I love.

It very good, Yeah. Cool.

Should we? Oh dude, actually got a question

for you. Have you got any notes from the

Peanuts gallery? There's.

Lots of very funny content out there about this film on our

favourite website Letterbox. Once again, not using this spot

to kind of call out people's opinions, even if they are shit.

We'll just kind of move on and deal with these bad opinions

that we witness. I mean it might be a shit

opinion, but it's not a shit person so.

I just glanced. I just glanced at one Rory that

says Jack Nicholson looks like he eats babies.

There you go. That's why the California, the

one touching the fucking kids, man.

But like especially it's like there was one woman who was

like, Oh my God, I named my daughter Crayola and he devoured

her. He's got our Marines, right?

No. So off off off come the glasses,

because I'm an old bastard and let's have a look at these

reviews. So an issue with this is you've

got a kind of main through a lot of ones that are just like 4

stars all caps. You can't handle the truth for

exclamation marks, but we'll get once like he was digging in him.

If you know, you know genius Chungus.

I have no idea the meaning of that.

Well, I mean roughly the meaning of it, but I don't get the, I

don't get who he's digging in. So I guess I don't know.

And that's four stars if. I had to guess it would be Tom

Cruise and Kevin Bacon. I guess so, yeah.

Tom Cruise, you know. How's your fucking soft bio

Jack? Tom Cruise delivers the

courtroom passion of a man who thinks an extraterrestrial ruler

named Xenu brought brilliance of people to Earth and killed them

with hydrogen bombs and now they're souls attached to people

and 'cause them to stress. 4 1/2 stars here.

I love what it's like 4 1/2 stars.

Say what? What more could it have done

rolling into the courtroom with the two schnooks like they're

the letters in Miracle on 34th? I love that.

I do it for one second. By the Jack Nicholson's carrot.

I would actually decide to blurt out the truth in court, but

otherwise, great watch. Disagree.

I think you absolutely would. I think he thought he was

totally unassailable at that point.

Like I said, the man said the walk and talk and physical

embodiment of the Navy SEAL. Copy, pastor, you know?

Yeah. He'll sort of contempt for.

That yeah, total contempt for everyone.

He's he's high on his own supply.

He's absolutely in love for himself.

He thinks he's the be all and all.

He thinks he's fucking King Louie, man.

He's not King Louie. He's not from Princely.

He thinks he's Lily, Allen thinks.

He's his own. Yeah, he.

Thinks he's Rod Stewart. I'm stronger than the Colonel

because I would never be rage bared into getting myself

arrested for murder and several of our felonies.

Absolutely. Basically a charisma competition

between Cruz and Moore, and they're both Duncan Three's on

all counts. Also comes across as a Zuma

versus Boomer clash in some respects, which is interesting.

It is interesting. It is Zuma V Boomer Aaron Sorkin

character reaching through the TV to jerk off your neolib dad.

I should go to gaol because I forgot the number one most

important thing about the United States military helping people.

Would it be the perfect movie of Tom Cruise and Demi Moore ended

up together? Sad face no?

That's great. Yeah, display with that one.

Four stars. Demi Moore.

Chronically underrated, not least because she's the only

woman alive to have on screen sexual chemistry with Tom

Cruise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Even his wife didn't. Yeah, well, there it go.

Nothing Tom Cruise does in this movie would be OK in a

courtroom. Yeah, there's, there's, there's

lots of stuff here we'd probably get like thrown out for.

Being Absolutely. A bit of a Dick.

And just one that kind of happens.

Back to the first ever Notes and Piano gallery on No Way Out.

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So, yeah, it's a good mix of unhinged, horny and just quite

insightful reviews from our excellent friends, the users of

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Cool. That, I think, brings us to the

end of another edition of Sharing Present Dudes.

True on ICIA, sorry. Oh, right, yeah, I mean, that

depends, I suppose. Really.

The only way, the only thing I can think of right, is that is

that this whole movie is based on an incident that took place

at a problem base down in Guantanamo Bay.

And you know, the only reason that that base is there and we

got involved, they got involved with Cuba in the 1st place is

the Cold War and who had and who had a big hand and all that big.

CIA. Central, big Central

Intelligence Agency. So you know, it all goes back to

62, doesn't it? So it's a bit of a reach.

But if it either way, I think it goes slightly in the ante.

They're not really involved, do they?

The closest thing it gets to intelligence is saying that

Jessup's exo, the guy who disappeared and then domed

himself, worked at counterintelligence.

The Marines. So.

And he was really good. So he was like, he's gone.

So I guess it says they're really good at training them.

Actually, so like you would have had some, some CIA kind of

input. Who knows, maybe he was down in

the school of America as at one point maybe he was with the

dance squads. You could.

Make stretch the point a bit and make it to the movies distinctly

against abuse of power. That's true.

And then from there you extrapolate naturally that it's

probably against the say. That's a coin flip.

This one, I mean between either anti CIA or just entirely

ambivalent on it because I mean. I guess it's against reshaping

the narrative to suit your own ends and prove the truth.

Yeah. So that doesn't speak highly for

this. I think this is one in the anti

CIA box. Just yeah, just because of like

Aaron Sorkin's general outlook. Yeah, so what's the tally at

now? 12 happens to?

Let's work out which one's the poor Aunt I.

So no way out? Yeah, Auntie.

Yeah, Meteor. I can't remember what you said

for that. Ambivalent.

Yeah. Hunt for All October Pro.

Vehemently pro yeah. Vehemently pro yeah.

OP Centre didn't. They weren't involved.

Yeah, sure. He wasn't involved in that film

at all, Rosalie. Really striking distance not

involved. God War of the Worlds not not

involved the enemy of the state pro I think just because they

because they weren't the NSA. It was it was it was pro CIA of

identifying anti NSA. And June Hackman's character

being yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Because it was. It was broad, wasn't he?

Yeah. And God, what have you?

What was After that we did Crimson Tide, which was

ambivalent. The last one we did was

unstoppable, ambivalent and oh and Fred is the Condor which I

think is anti. Yeah, yeah.

So we're equals equals in there. And then we add on this as an

anti. So it's 3 to 2 I think.

Cool. So we'll keep, we'll keep track

of that. What's the next movie we're

going to do? I just had a pick.

So it's one of you guys. All right, we're going to go

apeshit. We're going to go nuts.

We are going to go for a film that I initially wanted to do

was my pick right when we started this podcast off.

We're going to go for the incredibly bonkers mid to late

2000s thriller that is Smoking Aces.

Wow. OK, cool.

Chris Payne, the cast of thousands.

It's going to be nuts. I'm really excited.

This film's crazy. I wanted to propose this for

like the first film we did, but it's so long, there's so much

stuff in it. It's a mental and I hope, I hope

the board approves of my request.

Yeah, absolutely. It's true.

True. Carnahan's Smoking Aces also did

knock. Do you remember Knock?

Yeah, God damn. Oh, bleak movie.

Yeah, Cool, awesome, so cool. So yeah, come back for episode

13 of Clear present Diesel. We'll be covering smoking aces.

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